Dragged Into Sunlight 

How did you come up with the the band name 'Dragged Into Sunlight' and what is the intent behind the band?

The band doesn't have any intent, when we first got together we were already called 'Dragged Into Sunlight' as a project so basically we were a collective of guys that used to practice on a Sunday but none of those people are involved anymore as it was more of a group thing, walk in, walk out. So when I first started playing with 'Dragged Into Sunlight' we would go into the jam room once every couple of weeks or few months and drummers would come and go and it ended with basically the four people there at the time and we were asked to do an album under the name 'Dragged Into Sunlight' so that's how it started. Different people interpret the name how they want and that's cool but it has its own meaning to us as that's what we already played under, it just fitted the music and we all have our own little ties to it.

You have been described as a black metal band in the past but you have kind of gone away from that now. What genre would you put yourself under?

We don't really have a genre or a box to play in so we don't say that we are going to write a fast album or that it's going to have black metal parts, we just don't do that, it is what it is. People either like it or they don't.  'Hatred For Mankind' was a very fast, aggressive, black metal album and 'Widowmaker' was very relaxed, very tense and kind of soft spoken in areas but they weren't intended that way but it is what it is at that time. Currently we're at a place where we feel we want to write faster stuff when we started writing new material.

'Widowmaker' is a 40 minute song split into three parts, Are there any plans to play the song in it entirety from start to finish?

Yeah there is. We're rehearsing it but obviously it's going to take a while especially seeing as we are writing new stuff and trying to play shows so there's only so much time available, but we're trying to dedicate time to it. It's such a big set up with the making of it with violins, mood and samples so there's a lot more involvement than say 'Hatred For Mankind.'

Do you think it will be hard to bring all those elements together to play that album live?

Yeah it will be very difficult, We've started work on the foundations so it's all about putting the time in so when we do play it it will be 300% so it's not going to be like a 70% show. We will practice it that much so when it does come together it really will be something special. We actually have a video for it now, it's 41 minutes long which has taken 3 years to complete. Dwid Hellion sent it over this week and it's all custom footage, he has spent night and day on it, he's really broken his back for it. So to have someone dedicate all the their time prior to it's release is going to give it a new boost of life and it will be something interesting for people to get into and to watch.

'Terminal Aggressor' and segments of 'Hatred For Mankind' pushed boundaries for abrasive music, What does the future hold for extreme music and where do we go from here?

Just keep pushing it, whether it's faster, louder, heavier or slower. There isn't any boundaries anymore as people keep exploring anything and everything that they can. For us personally we will keep on doing what were doing and will we keep pushing boundaries in whatever direction we can. If something sounds too settled I guess we will just go back to scratch and if it sounds too standard then we wont take it any further and we will push ourselves to write something more extreme and more intense and its all about pushing that feeling being the music.

You repeatedly reference high profile murderers with quotes/samples in your music, Would you ever consider any direct collaborations with a convicted killer?

Yeah we have looked at that, there's a bunch of people we know that are into that kind of thing and I worked on death row for 10 months a few years ago so I met a lot of people there. There's a guy who is on Texas death row and he started doing the artwork for us and the title but security is so tight there. They basically spend 23 out of 24 hours in their sell so if they are caught drawing something for 'Dragged Into Sunlight' it's probably not going to be a great move in terms of probation and things or in terms of general good behavior. We've had a few people on Texas death row that have helped us with things, we've thought about getting one of them to write lyrics for us but I guess it just depends on finding the right person. We know a lot of people out there as I used to work there, but they're not certain serial killers you could use on a record and on an intellectual level they aren't guys I would want to say that they've done the artwork etc. So I think it would have to be one of the killers that we've referenced on the the albums but they are such high profile that they are almost celebrities so you're not going to get within 15 foot of them. People that I've met there have directly contributed to the albums but they have in a way with the mentality of the albums. Something like death row you cant replicate the feeling when you're in there or the atmosphere, it's generally a really sollom place, there's no physical contact at all but it's definitely a really cool experience and it's all sat with me until now.

I know we just discussed serial killers but what bands or people inspire you to write new music? Whether their killers, musicians, politicians. 

There's so many influences in 'Dragged Into Sunlight'. I guess what gets me about serial killers is that they are serial killers, that they're clever minds, some of them are politicians, some of them are in there because they speak their minds. Someone like Charles Manson spoke his mind and if you listen to what he said he is actually really intelligent and if he was to be let out then, well I guess that's why he's in there because he is so convincing. I think I would reference outside influences but they are very general and I think what summarizes 'Dragged Into Sunlight' and the intent behind it is the the voice of people like Gacy, Manson, Dahmer and people like that because it's so intent, they have no reason to smoke screen, they have nothing left to hide, they've been caught. With the things they say they've had plenty of time to reflect so that whatever they do say is very relevant and it summarizes a lot of the feelings that go into 'Dragged Into Sunlight'.  You know bands like Church Of Misery have drawn from samples of serial killers as they can say it better than we can say it ourselves so we kind of pay homage to them as they are very great minds.

Obviously you play your shows facing away from the crowd, Who's idea was this and is it something that you will always do?

It's something we wont change as we've never needed to change it. When we used to turn up on a Sunday it's how we used to jam in that room. When we played our first show it was the first thing we did. We did it as a way of showing that it didn't matter whether a venue had zero people or 600 people that we were always going to give it 300% and break our backs. People travel a long way to see you and they want to see something special so we have to give them that. Sometimes you can see the look on some bands faces that they're not impressed when a venue is empty but why should it make a difference, you're playing the music you love. As far as we're concerned we are playing until we are 70 years old and it doesn't matter if there is no one there or if  no one is buying the album, we do what we we do, you can take it or leave it but we have our own motivations for it and there's no reason to change it.

Who comes up with the ideas for your album artwork? I particularly love the cover for 'Hatred For Mankind'

For 'Hatred Of Mankind' it was Justin completely. He listened to the record much like Dwid Hellion did with the video for 'Widowmaker', he listened to it for so long, he kept revising it and he would send me a new version of it with little bits added to it. I think he was so excited about that we didn't even know what he was doing with it. We didn't pay much attention to it until it came into fruition and it just fitted in so well with the record that it was like he was part of the band. It was the same with the making of the video, that they listened to the music that much that it became special to them. I think that has to happen with all the people we collaborate with, We won't collaborate with someone unless they have the same passion for the band that we have got and there's no doubt about it that these guys have the same mind set as us, even the jokes they make, we get them. We have a great mutual respect too and you need that with someone you collaborate with, they respect you as an musician and you respect them as an artist.  We had the same thing with Sindre Foss who did the 'Widowmaker ' artwork. It actually meant that much to him that he took time away from his family, went to a wooden cabin in Norway and isolated himself for 3 months just to do the 'Widowmaker' artwork. Justin actually wants to do the follow up art to our forthcoming release which is a sequel to 'Hatred For Mankind' and he's dying to get started on the artwork. He's set a trend which is nothing less than all out which everyone we have worked with has stuck too and I really cant wait to see what it will end up like.

What does 2014 hold for 'Dragged Into Sunlight'? A follow up to 'Widowmaker' perhaps? I see that you have already confirmed to play the Temples Festival next year.

We are currently working on the sequel to 'Hatred For Mankind' and we also hope to release the second part of our 2008 tape release 'Terminal Aggressor'. We also have few festivals shows planned including the Temples Festival in Bristol.

Thank you for taking time out to speak to me before your show tonight and I will see in the pit later